Talk:MHF2/MHFU: Great Sword / Long Sword Tree

Started converting ascii tree to wiki familytree template.

Someone please fill in the weapon dmg,element,slots, and maybe a image of sharpness. Please use the long swords tree as an example. Also could someone please paste the ascii tree for the other weapons classes I will change them to wiki familytree template when I get there.

thanks Amess 19:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

This looks horrible. DeadCat 04:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Why DeadCat? It's just an image with correct info on it?  PitchBlack696  (talk) 04:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I just think its weird, especially because the lack of links. Just an opinion. PS: True said something about making me a admin?

sharpness
Hey, im planing to make ascii versions of all the weapon trees, but then again im not sure of what to do with the sharpness bars, i once saw in a faq they used descriptions as in "small gren bar", im not very sure about this being actually usefull, but ill start "converting the tree one to maybe have it later today, i hope this one gets good. Xariamaru 16:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Advances
I was working about the tree and i got this done, i have checked at a few points, but this got a few problems to solve.
 * As you can see its only ascii, i like to think its very complete (as much as i could right on the spurt of the moment), it needs LOTS of work to look as fancy as i would like.
 * First this is just the buster path (so bone blade is still pending), and i neglected LS as much as i could, i can redo that later on, just wanted to get some work done before i go out today(lol).
 * The list from skies of croma, doesnt inculde neither the upgrade ingredients nor the creation ingredients for any of these swords.
 * please send feedback about this, i dont feel like doing anyother paths or weapons tree's if we dont agree on a "standart" to use.
 * im really uncomfortable with the sharpness description i had to use for this, specially since it eats a lot of space, iw as thinking in maybe using small colored square images for each kind of sharpness and put them together to make a sharpness bar, roughly you can just separate the sharpness into 4 sizes, very small, small, medium and big, and 6 colors, that would just make 24 posible small images, well this is what i had in mind, i want to know your opinions.

Weapon tree's tests
Keh~, having fun on my freetime lol. This is what i have in mind, geez i only come up with tables to solve everything @@ This is the original file i made. buster sword || 288 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow || 0% || - || 1 || 500 || ??? |->silver serpentblade|| 480 || ice 240 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green|| 0% || - || 1 || 2510 || ??? |->golden serpentblade|| 816 || ice 400 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green|| 0% || 2 || 6 || 40000 || ??? |->vile serpentblade|| 528 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+|| 0% || - || 1 || 2150 || ??? |->poison serpentblade|| 720 || poi 270 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green|| 0% || - || 1 || 4900 || ??? |->deadly serpentblade|| 864 || poi 380 || medium red, very small orange, small yellow, medium green, small blue|| 0% || 2 || 6 || 4000 || ???
 * ->buster sword+ || 384 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow+ || 0% || - || 1 || 850 || ???
 * ->buster blade || 480 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow 	|| 0% || - || 3 || 1400 || ???
 * ->Ravager Blade|| 576 || def+1 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, small green || 0% || - || 4 || 2150 || ???
 * ->ravager blade+|| 768 || def+2 || small red, small orange, medium yellow medium green || 0% || - || 4 || 4250 || ???
 * ->Tactical blade || 960 || def+6 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green || 0% || - || 4 || 25000 || ???
 * ->Strategic blade|| 1008 || def+8 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+|| 0% || - || 7 || 40000 || ???
 * ->Chrome razor|| 816 || poi 320 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green || 0% || - || 5 || 7150 || 2 chameleos horn, 2 teostra horn, 8 tigrex fang
 * |->Chrome death razor|| 912 || poi 500 || big red, small orange, small yellow, medium green, small blue + || 0% || - || 8 || 75000 || ???
 * |->Carbalite sword|| 912 || - || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, small green || 0% || - || 6 || 25000 || ??? || 5 carbalite ore, 50 iron ore, 20 machalite ore
 * |->Carbalite sword+|| 960 || - || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green || 0% || - || 6 || 35000 || 5 union ore, 10 carbalite ore, 50 disk stone
 * ||->Lacerator blade|| 1104 || def+4 || big red, small orange, small yellow, medium green || 0% || 1 || 7 || 55000 || 2 azure rathalos carapace, 5 tigrex claw+, 10 carbalite ore
 * |||->Eviscerator blade || 1440 || def+8 || big red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue || 0% || 1 || 9 || 95000 || ???
 * ||->Resolution|| 1104 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+, small blue || 0% || - || 9 || 75000 || ???
 * |||->Punishment|| 1296 || - || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small bluw, small white-|| 0% || 2 || 9 || 100000 || ???
 * |||->lava cleaver|| 1200 || fir 200 || big red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, very small blue || 10% || 1 || 9 || 100000 || ???
 * ||||->Lava splitter|| 1344 || fir 220 || big red, small orange, medium yellow, small green+, small blue+ ,small white-|| 20% || 1 || 10 || 120000 || ???
 * |||->Melting flame edge(LS)|| 1200 || fir 200 || big red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, very small blue|| 15% || 1 || 9 || 10000 || ???
 * || |->Scorching flame edge(ls)|| 1296 || 220 || big red, small orange, small yellow+, small green+, small blue, small white || 20% || 1 || 10 || 120000 || ???
 * ||->Demon halbert(ls)|| 864 || thn 180 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow+, small green|| 10% || - || 7 || 80000 ||  3 rajang fang, 4 black rajan pelt, 8 union ore
 * | |->Great Demon halbert(Ls)|| 912 || thn 240 || big red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, very small blue|| 15% || - || 7 || 90000 || ???
 * | |->Arch Demon Halbert(ls)|| 1248 || thn 250 ||  big red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue, small white-|| 25% || 1 || 8 || 130000 || ???
 * |->bronze coin|| 864 || def+20 || medium red, medium orange, small yellow, small green, small blue|| 0% || - || 5 || 35000 || 1 gaoren pincer, 3 gaoren shell, 3 ancient fish
 * ||->Gaoren coin|| 1008 || def+30 || medium red, medium orange, medium yellow+, medium green, small blue|| 0% || - || 8 || 85000 || ???
 * | |->Gaoren token|| 1440 || def+30 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue, very small white || 0% || - || 10 || 130000 || ???
 * |->Guardian sword(ls)|| 912 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow,medium green|| 0% || 3 || 6 || 30000 || 2 novacrystal, 15 lightcrystal, 10 carbalite ore
 * |->Imperial sowrd(ls)|| 1008 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+|| 10% || 3 || 7 || 60000 || 10 union ore, 30 earth crystal, 3 basarios tears
 * |->ocean guardian(ls)|| 1104 || wat 300 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+, small blue|| 0% || 2 || 9 || 90000 || ???
 * |->Altantica(ls)|| 1296 || wat 350 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+, small blue, small white || 0% || 2 || 9 || 115000 || ???
 * |->Snow blossom(ls)|| 1104 || ice 200 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green+, small blue|| 0% || 1 || 9 || 75000 || ???
 * |->Snow Moon Blossom(ls)|| 1344 || ice 150 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue, small white || 0% || 2 || 9 || 100000 || ???
 * ->Khezu shock sword|| 624 || thn 220 || big red, very small orange, small yellow, small green|| 0% || - || 1 || 3100 || ???
 * |->Khezu shock blade|| 960 || thn 250 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue|| 0% || - || 7 || 50000 || ???
 * |->Khezu shock edge|| 1056 || thn 280 || small red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue|| 0% || 1 || 9 || 85000 || ???
 * |->khezu shock divider|| 1200 || thn 350 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green, small blue, small white- || 0% || 2 || 9 || 85000 || ???
 * ->cat's soul|| 480 || par 200 || medium red, very small orange, small yellow, small green|| 0% || 1 || 1 || 2150 || ???
 * |-> cat's curse|| 624 || par 360 || big red, very small orange, medium yellow, small green|| 0% || 1 || 4 || 4250 || ???
 * |->cat's king|| 720 || par 450 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, medium green|| 0% || 1 || 6 || 45000 || ???
 * |->cat's Venus|| 912 || per 400 || medium red, medium orange, small yellow, small green, small blue|| 0% || 1 || 9 || 75000 || ???
 * |->Gold Cat's Snarl|| 1008 || par 460 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, small green, small blue|| 0% || - || 1 || 95000 || ???
 * ->defender|| 432 || def+10 || small red, medium orange, small yellow|| 0% || - || 1 || 1400 || ???
 * |->sentinel|| 576 || def+20 || small red, small orange+, medium yellow|| 0% || 1 || 1 || 2600 || ???
 * |->barbaroi blade|| 480 || fir 250, def+12 || medium red, small orange, medium yellow, very small green|| 0% || 1 || 3 || 2150 || ???
 * ||->crimson goat|| 624 || fir 500, def+16 || small red, small orange+, big yellow, very small green|| 0% || 1 || 4 || 6350 || ???
 * |->halberd|| 864 || - || medium red, medium orange, very small yellow|| 0% || - || 4 || 4250 || ???
 * |->Judgement|| 1056 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow, very small green+|| 0% || - || 6 || 40000 || ???
 * ->white serpentblade|| 384 || ice 120 || big red, very small orange, small yellow|| 0% || - || 1 || 1100 || ???

Ta~tata ta~! (yeah when you complete an objective lol)
Ok im pretty happy with how this ended up looking, now, i dont know an easier way to make this rather than set the ascii code and tranfers the info manually, i wont go into how much hours i spent on this cause you guys propably know how to do it in a second XD. Now to the important part. Ill be working on the rest of the GS tree's, or if you want to work on them just use the code and tell me, i would really appreciate if someone would start with some other tree so we can speed up our weaponry lol. Xariamaru 19:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC) This are the images im using for this lil trick, this are the small, maybe i should get, small, medium and big sizes to optimize coding... The medium versions And the big versions (prolly white is gonna be useles lol.) And this baby is what i got in mind.
 * honestly i consider the rarity column is kinda pointless
 * the elemental damage could use some colors (im already too tired XD)
 * if you add the ingredients it makes the rows bigger and you loose track of the "family tree"
 * im still not 100% happy with the actual tree arrows, maybe some images like it was done with the sharpness?
 * If you got any suggestions or want to post, or fix spelling or something that might have gone thru me wihtout me noticing it, fix it please.

Ugh... its gonna be a headache to put all the info into this forma, but i wanted you guys to check it out, i finally implemented the images i was talking so much about (in the end i was too dam lazy and just made small, medium and big XD.), those will add up a bit on the coding but it will be worth if they look so pretty. Xariamaru 06:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Weapon Tree

 * ) Finally it looks better.

I actually though of using abbreviations here but man this looks amazing!

Artemis Paradox 07:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Working on the GS's
As the title says ill be working on the greatsword's and longswords trees, if someone wants to help go ahead to SOD and proceed with any other tree (not that i dont want anyone else to do the GS, but i already started and it would be wise if we dont work double or tiple.). Try using this format: buster sword || 288 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow || 0% || - || 1 || 500 Its pretty simple and if even in the notepad can use the replace function to change small msdium, big//red,  (or any other color) for the proper code for the images, use your own judgement, someimes if you find a very very thin line, just dont use any image and jump to the next one, and just use the code its here for the beggining of the tables. Advanced thanks for your cooperations!. Xariamaru 20:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC).
 * ->Iron Katana|| 480 || - || small red, small orange, medium yellow || 0% || - || 1 || 1400

New one ready
Ok here it is the iron katana path, the rest of the paths for GS and LS will be ready along the week, please be patient. And btw, the iron katana path does actually start as a branch from the buster sword path if you like to pus it that way too. I did actually cut the blango destroyer branch from the GS section since i thought it would deserve to appear here much more. note i found that im missing the small branch of the ceanataur cutter in this one. This message is mostly a reminder to myself.

Bone path ready(GS)
Ok i was working in this one today, ill just post it and later fix all the problems, im sleepy lol.

Bone path ready.(LS)
Im getting fairly good at making this tables, and if im not wrong they include G weapons (as far as i can tell cause i dont find them in the MHF2 i have =. Btw i had problems figuring out how to explain that Bone Katanna "Wolf" can be done by both Bone Blade+ and Large Bone. I hope this one is also useful lol. Xariamaru 18:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

error?
On the tree page (the final one), seems like i cant add any new sections, it allows me to do it, but it just pastes the info and doesnt make the new division. This would create a problem since its becoming a really large file.