MHF2 Rusted Weapons Guide (by Croda)

Rusted Weapons Guide by Croda.

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=Introduction= Now, I've only written one FAQ before and that was for a different game. I probably would have just left it at that, but I decided I was sick of seeing Ruststone topics on the message boards. Seeing as how ancient stones and ruststones are basically the same thing, I'm going to explain everything based on ruststones. Just think of ancient stones as hard-class ruststones.

=Ruststones= Ruststones are items that can be taken to the weapon smith, and be potentially made into rare weapons, known as rusted weapons. These weapons tend to get overshadowed by other, much better weapons after you reach hard Rank, but they are decent dragon elemented weapons that can be gotten early on and are fairly useful against the Elder Dragons. While in this game, most of the rusted weapons available in MHF did receive a significant drop in usefulness, due to the negative affinity, some did not. Most notable among those that did not is Eternal Strife, which can be very useful on the Elder Dragons. Another new addition to the rusted line is the addition of the elder dragon elemental offshoots. Teostra, Lunastra, and Kushala Daora all have their own weapons in the rusted weapon lines, and these weapons all tend to be significantly better than their dragon elemented counterparts.

=Farming for Ruststones=

The Volcano
The best, and earliest place to farm for ruststones is in the volcano. The volcano is unlocked after clearing the 3-star elder urgent where you hunt the Blangonga. Ruststones can be farmed in the volcano in one of five places. There are three areas to mine in area 8, and two in area 6. The X's on the walls are very obvious. There are only these five mining locations in those areas, so don't worry about potentially mining the wrong X. If you need more detail than that, I will refer you to the excellent maps on the gamefaqs MHF2 FAQ page. Ancient Stones can be found in the volcano in the same locations HR4 and up.

Other Ways
1) Mine the tower. Occasionally you will find some in areas 1, 4, or 5, but seeing as how there are fewer mining spots in the tower, you would be better off simply mining the volcano.  Also, the volcano is available sooner.

2) Kill Lao. Occasionally you'll get some in rewards.

=Making Rusted Weapons=

Polishing
The first thing you need to know is how to go about polishing ruststones. It's a simple process, but you'd be surprised at how many people can't figure it out. First figure out what kind of a ruststone you have:

Flat Ruststone -> Greatsword

Ancient Flatstone -> Greatsword

Small Ruststone -> Sword and Shield

Sm Ancient Stone -> Dual Swords

Large Ruststone -> Hammer

Lg Ancient Stone -> Hammer

Ruststone Rod -> Lance

Ancient StoneRod -> Lance

Ruststone -> Light Bowgun

Ancient Stone -> Light Bowgun

Next, SAVE YOUR GAME! Then, go talk to the weapon crafter. Pick the option to Create Weapon, then select the type of ruststone you have. At the end of the list, there should be an weapon creation entitled: ??????. Select it, and create weapon. This is what is known as polishing. Make sure you polish all of the ruststones/ancient stones that you currently have. Don't save yet.

Crafting A Rusted Weapon
Now, chances are when you polished the ruststone, you didn't get a rusted or worn weapon. You probably got something along some crappy weapon that you have long since crafted beyond. This is NOT a rusted weapon. If you just crafted anything other than one of the following weapons, you are going to want to go to your bed and quit WITHOUT saving. This is why I told you to save it ahead of time.

Rusted Great Sword

Worn Greatsword

Rusted Sword

Worn Blades

Rusted Hammer

Worn Hammer

Rusted Lance

Worn Spear

Demonlock

Island of the Gods

After restarting your game, go and complete one quest for every ruststone/ancient stone you have. It can be a training quest, a hunting quest, etc. but go do one. The easiest one to do is a gathering quest, just drop off the pawpass and you're done. Now go back to your bed, save polish, and see if you get a ruststone this time. If you did, you can go to the next step. If not, go to your bed, quit without saving, and do it all over again. Either way, DON'T save the game after polishing.

Getting The RIGHT Weapon
If you've been following these instructions so far, you've been polishing all of your ruststones every time you polished any, and chances are, you didn't get the rusted weapon you wanted, and if you did, it probably wasn't on the first polish. If it was, congratulations. You can save now. If it wasn't (which is far more likely,) read on.

Now, there are two methods of getting the weapon you want. Say for instance, that the fourth ruststone you polished that round turned into a rusted weapon. If you save then you will be wasting 3 ruststones and the one you polished might not even be the one you wanted. Remember the number of the ruststones you polished before getting the rusted weapon, and go to your bed and quit without saving once.

The second method is to Reload, and do an equal number of quests to the number of ruststones you had to polish before polishing the one that yielded the rusted weapon. Make sure that this time when you do quests that you don't save. That way, if you make a mistake, you can always go to your bed, quit, and try again, this time following the instructions more closely.

Anyways, after doing the quests, take the rusted weapon you want to make and polish that ruststone. If you get it, great! SAVE NOW! If you didn't, you messed up somewhere. Go back and read this again. Once you've got your rusted weapon, the hard part is over, and you can concentrate on obtaining the materials necessary for your chosen weapon.

Why It Works
When you start a new game, a random number somewhere between 1 and around 60 is chosen. Each time you do a quest, or polish a ruststone, that number goes down by one. When the number reaches 1, if you polish a ruststone, you will get a rusted weapon. Either way, when you lower that number by one either by polishing, or doing another quest the number is reset to another random number between 1 and 60. Random in this case means some reason we don't understand. If polish 5 ruststones and you end up getting 2 rusted weapons, you will always get get a rusted weapons on same polishes, no matter how many times you reset the game, so long as you don't do quests to get the number down to zero without polishing.

This is easier explained with numbers, so say for example, that the ruststone counter starts at 7. This is just an example, so in real life 7 has no special meaning. You would have no idea that the counter was at 7. Anyways, you polish your 4 ruststones. Each time you polish a ruststone, it reduces the counter by 1. So, 7-4=3. Each time you reset, the number on the counter goes back to 7. So, no matter how many times you reset your game, the counter would never reach 0 because 7-4 is always equal to 3. The other way to reduce your counter though, is by doing quests. So, seeing as how you had originally polished 4 ruststones, you do 4 quests and save, bringing your counter to 3. Now, when you go to polish, the third ruststone you polish will always be a rusted weapon, no matter how many times you reset your game.

Now, if you don't feel like wasting those two other ruststones, you could reset your game, do 2 quests, then polish the ruststone of your choice. You will get a rusted weapon, because 3-2=1-1=0.

Alternativly, you could simply reload the game and polish 3 ruststones again, making sure that the ruststone you wanted was the third one.

=Weapons=

Weapon Trees
Rusted Great Sword (GS) | |--->Tarnished Great Sword |      |--->Ancient Blade (Atk 864, DRG 100, Aff -20%, Shrp: Green) |      |--->Steel Ice Blade |            |--->Steel Ice Blade+ |                  |--->Daora's Decimator (Atk 912, ICE 350, Shrp: Blue)

Worn Great Sword (GS) | |--->Weathered Grt Sword |      |--->Epitaph Blade (Atk 960, DRG 100, Aff -20%, Shrp: Blue) |      |--->Teostra Blade |           |--->King Teostra Blade (Atk 816, FIRE 620, Shrp: Blue)

Rusted Sword (SnS) | |--->Tarnished Sword |      |--->Eternal Strife (Atk 126, DRG 520, Shrp: Green) |      |--->Steel Ice Dagger |            |--->Steel Ice Dagger+ |                |--->Daora's Razor (Atk 266, ICE 320, Shrp: Blue)

Worn Blades (DS) | |--->Weathered Blades |       |--->Eternal Schism (Atk 182, DRG 480, Aff -20%, Shrp: Blue) |       |--->Hi Twin Daggers |             |--->Silhouette Sabres (Atk 238, ICE 400, Shrp: Blue)

Rusted Hammer (H) | |--->Tarnished Hammer |       |--->Breath Core Hammer (Atk 936, Aff -20%, Shrp: Green) |       |--->Jadite Mace |             |--->Jade Mace |                   |--->Lunastra's Crown (Atk 936, FIRE 370, Shrp: Blue)

Worn Hammer (H) | |--->Weathered Hammer |      |--->Pulsating Core (Atk 1040, Aff -20%, Shrp: Blue) |      |--->Steel Ice Hammer |            |--->Daora's Colossus (Atk 988, ICE 330, Shrp: Blue)

Rusted Lance (L) | |--->Tarnished Lance |      |--->Undertaker (Atk 414, Aff -20%, Shrp: Green) |      |--->Steel Ice Spear |            |--->Steel Ice Spear+ |                  |--->Daora's Fang (Atk 437, ICE 300, Def +8, Shrp: Blue)

Worn Spear | |--->Weathered Spear |      |--->Matenro (Atk 483, Aff -20%, Shrp: Blue) |      |--->Teostra's Howl |            |--->Teostra's Roar (Atk 460, FIRE 200, Aff +10%, Shrp: Blue)

Demonlock--> Atk 168 with long barrel attached Shots lvl 1 2 3 Normal   6 6 9 Pierce   3 0 0 Pellet   4 0 0 Crag     3 3 3 Clust    3 3 3 Recov    0 3 Poisn    0 1 Para     0 1 Sleep    0 1 Flame    3 Tranq    2 Paint    2 Demon    1 Armor    1

Island of the Gods --> Atk 264 Shots lvl 1 2 3 Normal   6 6 9 Pierce   3 0 0 Pellet   4 0 0 Crag     3 3 3 Clust    3 3 3 Recov    0 3 Poisn    0 1 Para     0 1 Sleep    0 1 Flame    3 Tranq    2 Paint    2 Demon    1 Armor    1

Great Swords
_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Rusted Great Sword    | 1000z |432|  None  | 0% |Flat Ruststone    x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Tarnished Great Sword | 2500z |528|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Ancient Blade         |40000z |864|DRG  100|-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Blade       |35000z |672|ICE  200| 0% |Daora Webbing     x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Eldr Dragon Bone  x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |DaoraDragonScale  x3 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Blade+      |50000z |720|ICE  240| 0% |Daora Webbing     x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Shell       x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |Daora's Decimator     |90000z |912|ICE  350| 0% |DaoraDragonScale+ x10| |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Carapace    x4 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Jewel       x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

________________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Worn Great Sword      | 1000z |624|  None  | 0% |AncientFlatstone  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Weathered Grt Sword   |12500z |720|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Epitaph Blade         |60000z |960|DRG  100|-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x5 | |---+---+---+++-| |Teostra Blade         |80000z |768|FIRE 480| 0% |Teostra Horn+     x1 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Teostra Shell     x6 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Dragon Pwdr  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |King Teostra Blade    |90000z |816|FIRE 620| 0% |Teostra Horn+     x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Teostra Carapace  x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Drgn Jwl     x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

Sword and Shield
_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Rusted Sword          | 1000z |126|  None  | 0% |Small Ruststone   x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Tarnished Sword       | 2500z |140|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Eternal Strife        |40000z |126|DRG  520| 0% |Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Dagger      |35000z |196|ICE  180| 0% |Daora Claw        x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Shell       x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |DaoraDragonScale  x3 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Dagger+     |50000z |210|ICE  200| 0% |Daora Horn        x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Tail        x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |Daora's Razor         |90000z |266|ICE  320| 0% |Daora Carapace    x4 | |                      |       |   |        |    |DaoraDragonScale+ x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Jewel       x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

Dual Swords
_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Worn Blades           | 1000z |168|  None  | 0% |Sm Ancient Stone  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Weathered Blades      |12500z |182|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Eternal Schism        |60000z |182|DRG  480|-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Wyvern Stone      x10| |---+---+---+++-| |Hi Twin Daggers       |55000z |224|ICE  350| 0% |Carbalite Ore     x15| |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Webbing     x8 | |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x5 | |---+---+---+++-| |Silhouette Sabres     |80000z |238|ICE  400| 0% |DaoraDragonScale+ x10| |                      |       |   |        |    |Union Ore         x10| |                      |       |   |        |    |Machalite Ore     x20| |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

Hammers
_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Rusted Hammer         | 1000z |468|  None  | 0% |Large Ruststone x1   | |---+---+---+++-| |Tarnished Hammer      | 2500z |572|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Breath Core Hammer    |40000z |936|  None  |-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Jadite Mace           |35000z |780|FIRE 260| 0% |Lunastra Horn     x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Lunastra Shell    x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Firestone         x7 | |---+---+---+++-| |Jade Mace             |50000z |832|FIRE 300| 0% |Fire Drgn Webbng  x4 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Teostra Shell     x1 | |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |Lunastra's Crown      |90000z |936|FIRE 370| 0% |Lunastra Horn     x6 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Drgn Scl+    x6 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Drgn Jwl     x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK |ELE    |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+====+=======+====+=====================| |Worn Hammer           | 1000z |676 |  None | 0% |Lg Ancient Stone  x1 | |---+---++---++-| |Weathered Hammer      |12500z |780 |  None | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---++---++-| |Pulsating Core        |60000z |1040|  None |-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |    |       |    |ElderDragonBlood  x5 | |---+---++---++-| |Steel Ice Hammer      |80000z |832 |ICE 290| 0% |Daora Carapace    x4 | |                      |       |    |       |    |Daora Tail        x1 | |                      |       |    |       |    |Rare Scarab       x4 | |---+---++---++-| |Daora's Colossus      |90000z |988 |ICE 330| 0% |DaoraDragonScale+ x10| |                      |       |    |       |    |Daora Sharp Claw  x2 | |                      |       |    |       |    |Daora Jewel       x1 | |_______________________|_______|____|_______|____|_____________________|

Lances
_______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Rusted Lance          | 1000z |207|  None  | 0% |Ruststone Rod     x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Tarnished Lance       | 2500z |253|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Undertaker            |40000z |414|  None  |-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Spear       |35000z |322|ICE  200| 0% |Daora Tail        x1 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Shell       x3 | |                      |       |   |        |    |DaoraDragonScale  x4 | |---+---+---+++-| |Steel Ice Spear+      |50000z |345|ICE  240| 0% |Daora Claw        x4 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Shell       x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |Daora's Fang          |90000z |437|ICE  300| 0% |Daora Sharp Claw  x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Carapace    x6 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Daora Jewel       x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________| _______________________________________________________________________ |Name                  |Price  |ATK|ELE     |AFF |Materials            | |=======================+=======+===+========+====+=====================| |Worn Spear            | 1000z |299|  None  | 0% |Ancient StoneRod  x1 | |---+---+---+++-| |Weathered Spear       |12500z |345|  None  | 0% |Earth Crystal     x20| |---+---+---+++-| |Matenro               |60000z |483|  None  |-20%|Earth Crystal     x40| |                      |       |   |        |    |ElderDragonBlood  x5 | |---+---+---+++-| |Teostra's Howl        |80000z |414|FIRE 180|+5% |Teostra Tail      x4 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Teostra Shell     x8 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Dragon Pwdr  x2 | |---+---+---+++-| |Teostra's Roar        |90000z |460|FIRE 200|+10%|Teostra Horn+     x2 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Teostra Carapace  x5 | |                      |       |   |        |    |Fire Drgn Jwl     x1 | |_______________________|_______|___|________|____|_____________________|

Bowguns
______________________________________________________________________ |Name     |Cost to|Cost Upgrade|Cost Upgrade|Cost Upgrade|Cost Upgrade| |         |Create |    One     |     Two    |    Three   |   Four     | |==========+=======+============+============+============+============| |Demonlock |1000z |    900z    |   1350z    |    3600z   |    6750z   | |--+---++++| |Island of |1000z |   1320z    |   1980z    |    5280z   |    9900z   | |the Gods |       |            |            |            |            | |__________|_______|____________|____________|____________|____________|

=Frequently Asked Questions= Q: Is there a rusted weapon for bows/LS/HH?

A: No.

Q: I did what you said, but I couldn't get a rusted weapon, why?

A: You didn't follow the directions. Go back, read more carefully, and try again.

Q: Do you need to bring the ruststones on the missions with you?

A: No. There is no reason you should be carrying around a ruststone for any reason, unless you just found it and are waiting for the mission to end. Just put it in your box.

Q: Does the method from the last game still work?

A: If you are talking about the method from last game where once you get a ruststone, you reset and polish the stones again, making sure that the one you want is last, then yes. However, this method is a waste as you are basically throwing money and ruststones away for no real reason.

Q: When it is at number zero so you get the rusted wepon and u dont polish it, does it go up to 60 again???

=Contact Information= My email is croda@skiesofcrimson.com

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. Criticisms and corrections are welcome.

=Legal Junk= This Guide is copywrited to me, Mark Brown (Croda). Right now, this guide can only be posted at Skies of Crimson and the Monster Hunter Wiki. However, chances are I won't mind if you use it elsewhere. Just make sure you ask me first.

=Credits= Shiroh08th for data on Island of the Gods

http://home.comcast.net/~wepon1984/MHF2v0.5.htm for weapon paths while Skies of Crimson was down